Sunday, September 7, 2008

Sept 7, 2008.

O.K. This one might be long, because we haven’t posted anything for a long time and things are poppin’, a little.


This is a nice family we’ve visited twice, and are trying to “bring back.” They’ve felt “excluded” and that’s too bad. Their last name is Parmentier.

















This is a decoration on the side of their house, made by the lady: It’s kind of like a “plastic of paris mural.” Then after she made it, she cut it into 6 pieces and hung it on the wall.

















The next part is not very well organized. Sorry. I wrote a long explanation about the community singing we've joined, and put it AFTER these pictures. It's imbedded in an explanation about a funeral we attended last Saturday. Not well organized. Sorry. Just read (and re-read if you have to) to understand.


These are members of the commmunity choir at a “party/barbecue.” Yes, they called it a “barbecue” pronounced with a strong French accent. Lots a people know English words, but they can’t string them together, and their pronunciation is totally French. But lots of them, especially the better educated ones, can at least read English, and some can speak it fairly well.

























The question Americans HAVE to ask is How do these people avoid putting on weight? Look at that cake covered with strawberries, on the left! And this is only a small part of all the food.



















This next picture is NOT a good picture! Too light. You see Alice! To her right, you see the shorter lady, Sister Sautier, diagnosed with lung cancer about 3 years ago, but she’s beating it! Along with all the other emotions that go with such a catastrophe is the question “Why . . . ? since I have never ever smoked in my life?” The younger man, white t-shirt and levis, is her son-in-law, who is the contractor for the house (beautiful!) they’re building. The blue-t-shirt man is Brother Sautier, released as Stake president, probably 5 or 7 years ago, a member of our ward. The oldest guy in the picture looks really pretty old, doesn’t he?!! (Picture taken by one of the contractor’s hired hands. . .not very skilled!)



















Date: 7 Sept. 2008. Yesterday we went to a Catholic funeral!

I’ll explain.

We have joined a community choir. . . you know that. The choir is called “Samm’ Chante.” The Samme is a small river in the area of Seneffe, the town where we live, and "Chante" means "sing" of course, as all of you French speakers already know!! We sang with the choir at the marriage service of one of the grandchildren of one of the choir members a few weeks ago. After the service, we went to a bar and had our Sprite with other choir members, while they had their wine or beer (Belgians drink beer, not wine, usually). (See our blog of Aug 18.) A week ago Saturday, we went to a “Barbecue” . . . well, . . . they served less meat than in the US, but a lot (a lot!) of good food, and we ate outdoors. I would have called it a picnic, but for them, a picnic is really out in the wild! It was hosted by the Samm’Chante.

I'm still explaining, so just stay with me. We (Samm'Chante) rehearse every Wednesday evening, and we learned last Wednesday that the father-in-law of one of the members had passed away, and so we were asked to sing at his funeral service in the local church. Well, this time, we asked to be excused because we didn’t know the music. But we went to the funeral anyway. . . more than anything out of curiosity. It wasn’t too big of a surprise. But at one point, everyone there (except us and about 2 other people) went toward the priest and kissed something he held out to them. We couldn’t see what it was, and I thought maybe they had changed the way they gave “Communion.” Then later in the service, they DID have “Communion.” So after the service, we got to talking to one of the other choir members, comparing funeral services. She wanted to know if our services were very different than theirs, and so we explained, of course. She explained that the “kissing” mentioned above was a “personal farewell” to the deceased. The priest (and one other guy, a “lay minister?”) held small oval picture of what I think was the deceased, of maybe just a small oval picture of a cross, which each person kissed, and which the priest wiped on a cloth before the next person kissed it again. We’ve never been to a Catholic funeral before, so this was new to us.

It’s quite obvious to us that “Mormons” are still very very (!!) unknown here (except of course, for polygamy). In France and Belgium, you’re either Catholic or agnostic/atheist. (Sure, they’ve heard about Protestants, but I think even the Protestants and Jews seem “weird” to these people. And Muslims. . .these Europeans are actually kinda racist about Muslims. African-Europeans get less flak than Muslims do.) I thin k most people here still confuse us with the Amish. And of course what they see on TV about the FLDS strengthens that false idea. Whew!!

The lady who asked us questions thought, of course, that our church had its origins during the 16th or 17th centuries. It’s hard for these people to understand the concept that an Apostasy occurred shortly after the death of the apostles, and that a restoration was necessary.




Today in Fast Meeting, our host, Oliver Snickers, who works for the town of Seneffe, mentioned that a member of the town council has mentioned us to him. I guess we’ll have to see if they tell us at the next rehearsal whether or not we are still welcome to sing with them. I think they won’t kick us out, though, because we add something (we sing pretty well) and because we brought food to the picnic (mentioned above) and we helped wash wine glasses at the last rehearsal (yes, they had a little champagne at the last practice).

Thanks to those who post responses to these blogs. (If you don't, don't feel guilty, really!) We are really (!!) blessed. We wish we could see more people become active or come into the fold, but still, even so, we're blessed.

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

26 Aug 2008.

Hello all,

Well, we still are not meeting as many people as it seems to me that we used to in Strasbourg. It’s sad that I keep on comparing Belgium to Strasbourg. Not everything was great there! Not by a long shot. But the more time passes, the more it will probably seem like it was just perfect.

Anyway, the sisters took us on a visit to a lady who seems as sincere as I have ever seen anyone. She kept nodding positively as they made their presentation. Admittedly, she said she would come to Church, and then didn’t make it, but I think it was for a legitimate reason. People are coming back from vacation, and there truly were quite a few people at Charleroi last Sunday (Aug. 24). I gave the Priesthood Lesson and had 80% of the chairs filled (probably 16 people). . . not bad for the mission field. It was usually about like that in El Centro, and often smaller.

I have just given you an example of a terribly written paragraph! Each one of the sentences has little to do with the other four. So I’m going to re-write it.

Here it is again:

Anyway, the sisters took us on a visit to a lady who seems as sincere as I have ever seen anyone. She kept nodding positively as they made their presentation. Admittedly, she said she would come to Church, and then didn’t make it, but I think it was for a legitimate reason.

People are coming back from vacation, and there truly were quite a few people at Charleroi last Sunday (Aug. 24). I gave the Priesthood Lesson and had 80% of the chairs filled (probably 16 people). . . not bad for the mission field. It was usually about like that in El Centro, and often smaller.

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Two weeks ago, the stake executive secretary, Yvan Leonard, invited us to dinner for Aug 24, and we went and had a great Chinese dinner (yes, in Belgium). Wow, did he talk a lot! And asked us a lot of questions about the Church in Utah. His son was a missionary in Ogden, and even a zone leader. But while there he heard a lot (lots!) of people who said, “Why does anyone want to go to BYU? You should go to U of U, not BYU!” We told Yvan (the dad) that in Utah we now have “ La Sainte Guerre” (the Holy War) which is BYU/U.U. football rivalry, and which can get pretty serious!! He also heard about gun-totin’ racists in southern Utah! Yup, that’s what he heard about! You know, the big question of immigration! What surprised him most was that SLC is less Mormon than other areas in Utah (certain suburbs, Provo, etc.). It sounds like the European press/media picks up more of crazy things than a person would think, especially about the FLDS. Today, we even learned from some Belgians that the CIA and FBI have found some skin-heads planning to bomb the Democratic Convention. We haven’t heard or read about that yet, but maybe I will tonight after I finish this.

Among other things, Yvan Leonard told us is something we have sensed for a long time, and that is that the Church leaders in Europe seem to be a lot more strict than in the US. The current stake president in Brussels is (is!) an American, however, and he is trying to help the bishops and high council to be a little less harsh. This is interesting to me, because I think that in El Centro, the person who was stake president most of the time we were there was pretty “hard line.”


A letter from the European Area Authorities was read in Charleroi’s Sacrament Meeting, in which it was stated that Bern Temple has an urgent need for more senior couples. So we are going to do all we can to get ourselves called to go there next year. You’ll hear more about that project as we get our plans firmed up.


Today we had a (quite) enjoyable lunch with two retired couples who are members of our community choir. Both families are native Belgians, but spent many years as young marrieds in Congo (Africa). They even served us a Congo dinner (well, the main dish): first, soup, second, rice covered with chicken in a yellow sauce, and dessert, ice-cream. The only really Congo part of the meal was the rice and chicken with sauce. It so happened that the host showed us a new kind of can opener which opens the can so that there is a kind of “cap” to the can, and we happened to notice that it contained the sauce for the rice! (I was surprised, but didn’t mind it.) So this “African” meal is apparently well known in Belgium, since it’s sold in grocery stores in cans!

I was surprised how much these two couples (80’s and 70’s) shared with us! About the only time we could talk about the Church was when we talked about our kids and their travels, and not drinking alcohol, coffee or tea. But they, on the other hand, told us their “life stories!” We haven’t experienced anything at all in comparison to them!! Of course we encouraged them to write their experiences, and they admitted that they should. They seemed to appreciate us, because the hostess invited us to “drop in” on her at any time. We probably won’t, but I’m still amazed that she would even say it, because these people are really quite “protective” of their space and time. Twice before, when I’ve called the host, and his wife answered, she lied to me that he was not there, and then admitted, after she knew it was me, that she had lied, because so many telemarketeers call them.


This evening we met a less-active family with kids aged 15 and 11. The mother is Peruvian, the father half-French/half-German. They met in Cuzco, Peru, and had only English in common. They (probably) married and (for sure) moved to France, then Belgium, probably 15 years ago. All four of the family are listed on the ward records, but seem to have almost no interest whatsoever. However, the mother, Roxana, volunteered to us that several of her family are members, still living in Peru. She even has an active sister in SLC! It’s interesting how some people hold on and others simply do not! Why is that? I’m baffled!


Thursday we get to play “slow ambulance,” driving a member from Charleroi to a hospital Brussels and back. (C’mon, learn some geography! Look at a map of Belgium on the net. Charleroi is about 30-35 miles south of Brussels, but sometimes it feels further.) Charleroi has hospitals, but this member needs some specialized help, I guess. I don’t know what she’d do if we didn’t help her. Members here are a little less helpful during the week than what we hear is the case in Utah. Since we have not lived there for decades, we really don’t know!


That’s about all for now. I don’t write often, and when I do, it feels to me like I don’t really say anything of very much importance. We really have not been able to re-activate anyone, or be really involved with someone’s baptism. But a few of the Strassburgers remember us (and write us to thank us for having been there ) and maybe that’ll happen here too.

Alice just reminded me that actually, we have provided real missionary support than we ever did in Strasbourg. The missionaries need rides, because the distances are greater, surprisingly. We spend a lot of money on gas!


At least you know we think about you.

26 Aug 2008

Following are pictures of Yvan Leonard and his wife Dolores. Funny story: Both members of the Church since childhood; married each other, divorced each other, then re-married each other a second time! Wow!



They have a big (!!) acquarium. Gold fish and. . . purple fish! Yvan claims they are smart! And jealous (of their territory). He spends 2 or 3 HOURS per week cleaning and maintaining his/their (the fishes') acquarium.

The "bulbs" hanging from the tree are Kiwis. The kiwi tree is in the Sadzot yard. She's the lady who was baptized in 1962 in Nice. Alice arrived in Nice in 1963, after the lady had left Nice.

Pictures #2 and #3 show two of the FOUR fishponds they have built in their yard. Very attractive (any little boy would have trouble resisting trying to catch those fish with his hands).



Backyard. This picture does not do it justice. It is green, green, green!

Monday, August 18, 2008

I think that most of you know that Alice took RyanAir from Charleroi to Madrid last weekend, where she met up with Stacy. They had a nice time.

Saturday, Alice and I went to Brussels because Stacy had told us about the display of flowers at the Main Square of Brussels. It’s kindof a long drive to Brussels (about 30 miles) and so we decided to take the train. We got off at Central Station and walked down the hill to the Grand’Place (Big Plaza). There were lots of foreigners there (can’t imagine why!), mostly Italians and Spaniards. (In Europe, vacation is BIG! People in the north go south and vice-versa!)


New subject:

We think that the “long” summer is drawing to an end, and hopefully people will be coming back to Church. Attendance was a little better the last couple of weeks than before.

This morning I happened to see a story on the web about something crazy going on at an LDS chapel in London. I’ll give you the site: http://abev.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/too-much-excitement-for-sunday-or-on-burning-down-a-mormon-church/

The second half of the story tells about the allegedly crazy guy had cuts on his hand, and when asked about it, he seemed to admit, by his body language, that he was guilty of the arson. This reminds me of Helaman 9:24-41, which you might want to re-read.

Speaking of the BoM (Book of Mormon), I have found a site which I really like. It’s a very detailed commentary on the entire Book or Mormon, by an LDS named Brant Gardner, who sometimes publishes in the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Study at BYU. http://frontpage2000.nmia.com/~nahualli/commentary.htm

Here’s more about this man Gardner, and about the many other active LDS who are doing scholarly research on LDS themes: http://farms.byu.edu/authors/?authorID=78
I continue to have problems with our blog site. It rejects my password every time I use it, so I have to reset the password every time I want to post something new to the blog. That’s a real hassle. I have written down the username and password very clearly, and know that I’m not putting in something weird. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this, I’d like to know.
Because of my problems with the blogsite, I’m not able to post the pictures until later, when I have 2 or 3 hours to work on it.

Luv, Dad/Gerry

If I am able to get back to his blog site later, I'll do that. Meanwhile, here's the commentary that you can read before you see the pictures (if I can ever get them up).


Regarding some of the pictures : when I push the button, the camera beeps 3 times. I keep thinking the first beep is when the picture is taken, but after looking at some of the “pictures” (junk, really), I’m beginning to think the picture is taken only after the 3rd beep, and sometimes by that time, I’ve lowered my hand holding the camera.

You see 2 or 3 pictures of a bunch of old people, dressed mostly in blue or green tops. I’ll explain.

We’ve joined a singing group. . . they’ve been nice to us (because we are pretty good singers). On Saturday, the group sang at the wedding, in a local Catholic church. The pieces we sang were all in French (no Latin) and were almost “folk songs.” We sang with them, of course, but didn’t make the sign of the cross when they did. After the wedding, the group of singers went down the street “to have a glass” . . . (of anything). The placed was called “Taverne de l’AmitiĆ©.” English speakers all understand “Taverne.” Well, maybe not. In England, they would call it a “pub.” And in the US., we might call it (at least people of our age would) a “beer-joint.” So the translation would be “Friendship Beer-Joint.” I thought that was funny. I wanted to get a picture of the name of the place and tell you how it would come out in translation, but Alice said, “let’s photograph the group too.”

We had Sprite, while most everyone else had a Belgian beer.

I’ve struck up a friendship with one of the other basses. I asked him some questions and he told me some interesting things about “State-religion” connections. All the churches are kept in repair by the government. If we see a church that is not in repair, it’s because of a government problem (funding, etc.). Even more amazing, all priests, rabbis, ministers, etc., even Moslem clerics, are “state employees!” They come under the supervision of the Minister of Justice! (Maybe it’s because they are supposed to help keep “order in the state!”) I don’t know why I have never picked up on this in the past. It truly is amazing to an American to learn of this, and yet it is probably the norm in almost all the world (Europe, south America, much of Africa). In Asia it might be entirely different! I don’t know about Canada, but I suppose Mexico follows this norm, which may explain why the Mexican govt. for many years wanted to “own” all LDS chapels. All this helps explain why certain people are so anti-religious. . . I’ve known for a long time that the Catholic hierarchy and the royalty worked hand in hand to “keep the people” in control. Now it’s even more obvious how this worked, even though most European countries are democracies (even if they have a king). So. . . only in American could you find such a tenuous link between the “established church” and the govt., that a young man like J. Smith could come along. In any other country, the governor of Missouri or Illinois would have had even greater power to quash an “upstart” religion, and especially one which viewed itself as “the kingdom of God.” Kinda makes you think!

Saturday, August 16, 2008

Aug. 16, 2008.

I don't normally forward internet addresses, because of the possibility of viruses. But I feel comfortable posting this one. http://www.eurobru.com/visag040.htm It's about a "carpet of flowers" which is "laid down" in the Main Square ("Grand Place") of Brussels. We have not yet seen it, but hope to today, tomorrow or Monday (Aug. 16-18). Stacy told us about it. If you prefer to simply look for it in Google, just type in "tapis de fleurs" and "bruxelles" and it should come up. The commentary will be in French. Sorry about that. If you write "flower" "grand place" and "brussels" in Google, you might find the same thing in English.

We'll add to this a little later.